Respond to each of the following points:
· the challenges of being a learner at your age
· the joys of being a learner at your age
· your hopes for the next decade as a learner
· your advice for people who are entering your decade as a learner.
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I believe that there is too much importance given to chronological age. We develop a generalized description of people according to their race, ethnicity, and age so that we can better understand them. However, in doing so, we sometimes cause or encourage the data to fit our conclusions. For example, we have developed certain models of aging based on what experts call the norms. These norms are based in some cases on a very limited and, I believe, a biased sample. If an individual falls outside these norms, society exerts pressure on that person to change so that he/she fits the norms. Statements such as act your age, grow up, don't try it your too old, and you’re not old enough are, in many cases, an attempt to move you into the norm determined by your culture or subculture. In other words, the norms become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
At my age, the challenges of being a learner are basically the same as at any adult age. I felt the same way through my entire life. To reduce stress, I set priorities and try to follow them. I believe that this is one of the most important tools we can teach others. I have just completed a stage of my life during which I was a working single parent. This could have been a very stressful phase of my life; however, it was not. It was very exhausting but enjoyable. He was my top priority. I did undergo significant changes during this phase of my life. During the first year of my son’s life I developed several very strong friendships with mothers of children my son’s age. I would rather spend time with them than with my traditional male friends. In addition, I became more nourishing; however, if, I had not been a single parent, I do not believe that I would have developed those friendships nor come in touch with those mothering qualities. That phase and every other adult phase that I have enjoyed have been the result of my environment and not my age. During that time, I had to forgo my desire for another degree; however, I learned more during that phase of my life than I ever could have learned in graduate school.
Each of the phases of my adult life was initiated by a catastrophic event. The phase that I just started was initiated when my son graduated from high school and I realized that we no longer had the day to day interdependence that we had shared for 18 years. I also realized that I now had more free time to do those things that I had put off during my last phase.
My hopes for the next decade as a learner are to broaden my knowledge base by studying fields that I have not studied previously. I have enrolled in this program at Walden because, although I have taught at the college level for over 20 years, I have never taken a course in education. During this phase, I also want to become more computer literate, especially in the area of total immersion. I want to continue the friendships that I have enjoyed over the years and build new friendships with interesting people. Mostly, I want to continue the wonderful relationship that I have with my son.
My advice for people who are entering any decade as a learner is to look forward to it. Do not accept the norms. Do not let your culture pigeonhole you into acting certain age. My other advice is that in the end everything will probably not work out the way you expected it; however, in most cases, when you look back, it was better the way it happened than how you planned.
Response to Tom...
I would agree after reading many of these posts that the difficulties of learning cross all age boundaries. Do you think some think it is less stressful to continue education at your age bcause usually those in your age bracket no longer have children at home? I read an article the other day about a growing trend for people your age and that is to have their children moving home again, either for financial or personal reasons. The articles referred to these returning children as "boomer-rangs". Therefore, many learners at your age are dealing with children just like those of us in our 20's, 30's and 40's.
Do you feel that as a learner in this age bracket you feel a greater sense of freedom to explore for pleasure versus for financial reason?
Responding to Tom's post:
Your description of your "phases" of life was very interesting. I believe that most people are "pushed" through phases of their lives by going through some sort of "event". You offer some great advice as well. It truly does seem like nothing ever works out like we plan, but, in fact, most times, it works out better! I wish you the best of luck with this degree; it sounds like you are well on your way!
Hi Tom
I loved your post. You defined norm correctly, and I must ask what is norm. I have learned that norm for you is not the same for me. Now that you have more free time and has entered college as an adult learner, do you think this phase of your life will be more joy able than the past phases?
Patricia
To Tom
From Linda
How insightful your blog was. Your reflection of best experiences has allowed me to view things from a different perspective. Age doesn't matter it is how you live your life. Thank you.
Tom
Thank you for your post. I agree that our environment and and life change/challenges are important to our learning cycle.
Hi Tom,
Reading your post remains me of "Catch 30" ( Daloz, 1999). You have sorted,matched, built, broke down, "prioritizes your thinking to avoid stressful situation. Yes! I commence you for believing that prioritizing is a very important tool other can learn.
HI Tom
I needed to respond to someone from the "oldest" age group on the forum. Unfortunately, since there were not any 70 or 80 year olds, you won!
That said, I am inspired by your message. I took from your posting the idea that I must define my age and not let others do it for me. Additionally, it sounds to me like you are endorsing that time honored message of "you are as young as you feel and act!"
In fact, your message is helping me even at my mid 40's. As you may remember, this is the time when even men start to have issues. For example, I have my first colonoscopy scheduled next month (I am not really looking forward to it.) PSA counts are a regular part of my physical. Moreover, I wake up on cold mornings and sometimes my joints just ache; these messages tell me that I am not 20 something anymore.
However, when I start to feel "different" because of these changes I will keep in mind your advice. In particular, your reference to "cultural pigeonholing." I will especially take to heart your suggestion that I am as young as I feel (and that these little speed bumps along the journey of aging are just insurance policies to help us stay vital and healthy so that we may keep moving forward!).
Thanks for letting us know that the best is yet to come!
To that end, maybe if I am so fortunate to finish this EdD journey, I will consider undertaking a PhD journey. Afterall, if I use your time schedule I would be well ahead of the game!
Thanks for the inspiration Tom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, I am in the forty something age group...
Tom,
The truth is regardless of age, we all have the same needs, challenges, and emotions. As I read your post, I learned a great deal about more than just adult learning. I am a single mother of a 4 year old and I too have just begun that bumpy road. There is a great deal of learning in the act of raising children.
The adult learning process at Walden Univeristy will promote your acquisition of computer skills. The truth is, we could all learn a great deal from you in this course. You have been surrounded by adult learning for 20 years and no doubt you have identified some significant gaps and needs.
As a Floridian, a retiree state, I have witnessed the bias and prejudice against aging. It is sad but true that we place too much negative emphasis on age. As I am surrounded by older people in my small town,I look at them as walking maps. They have travelled roads I hsve not and learned lessons I have yet to face. I am jealous of their experience at times.
Age is a wonderful thing. Embrace it!
Serena
Response to Tom
Thank you for the thoughtful advice to learners who will eventually (hopefully) reach your current learning age. I agree that sometimes our original plans don’t work out but if you keep moving forward and making progress, chances are you’ll appreciate your accomplishments upon reflection.
I also agree that the development stages (for the various age groups) are some type of norm and do not necessarily fit everyone. I find it encouraging in reading your post and sense that you, too, are a life-long learner, and not all of our learning is formal or takes place in a “classroom”. I look forward to continuing to learn and I’ll keep your advice in mind as I progress along this lifelong, learning journey.
Van
• Challenges of being a learner at my age
Most challenging is having a developed life that doesn’t seem to have a lot of time left over to add activities, and nothing that can be eliminated. There is work involving travel, other studies, family matters, friends—all appreciated and important. Somehow extra time must be put into a day for organized learning. There is that feeling that if I don’t do all of these things now, when will I do them? And the biggest challenge for me: I am back in china adapting to this country once again along with the new challenges this always presents.
• Joys of being a learner at my age
It is such an accomplishment to complete an assignment, a course, to know that I have an educational goal and a strong desire to succeed. I feel confident (most of the time) and alive; happy to be a productive member of society.
• Hopes for the next decade
I hope to continue study and research, even after obtaining my degree, as well as teaching. As long as I am healthy I will work to keep an active mind and be an active contributor to society and a catalyst for change.
• Advice for people who are entering my decade as a learner
Most importantly don’t lose site of your goals or get sidetracked. Don’t let other people tell you that you can’t do something because of your age. Don’t think too much about age, because it isn’t the most important factor or even in the top five factors. Keep moving forward and think of yourself as a member of something larger, a learner in the age of technology and in the global community. You are someone who as an educator can have a positive influence on others.
Adrienne
Today my son turned 41 years old. Where has the time gone? I am a firm believer in the fact that age is only a state of mind. I have led a full and active life and I still do. Sometimes I bite off more than I can chew but that is always the way I have lived my life. I am chronologically 63 but in my mind I am stil 25 (maybe just a little smarter than I was then). I am still a firm believer in the fact that we learn something new everyday. As educators we must realize that we learn from our students as they learn from us.
The challenge that I find learning at my age is actually my lack of computer skills. I am learning new programs and easier ways of doing things on a daily basis.
Another challenge I have is my time management. At this phase of my life I feel thaat I should be slowing down but I find that I am actually in speed mode. I received by BS degree at age 42 and my MA at 45 while I worked full time and (as a single parent) raised my children. I retired 5 years ago and began teaching. I am now the Campus Director for a proprietary vocational/technical school. I work as many hours per week now (60-70) as before I retired. I knew I was not going to retire to a rocking chair because then I would be old and I am not.
My biggest challenge is finding time to read and research all that I really want to. Learning all that I feel I want to should is sometimes put aside because I must take care of all my students and employees. I am their teacher, confidant, guide, mentor, counselor, etc.
My greatest joy is being able to do something I have always wanted to pursue and being successful (so far). I am going after my dream anf while doing that I am setting an example for, not only, my family, but my peers too.
Learning at any age is tantamount to success. I have students (age 17 to 70) that come and tell me how long they have been out of school and they don't know if they can do it. I tell them my story and it give them hope. When they walk across the stage at graduation we all have succeeded.
My hopes for the next decade are to finish my EdD and continue on. By my learning I can pass on knowlege to others and make a change in someone's life.
My advice for people entering my chronological decade is to follow your heart. Don't let anyone tell you that you are to old to do anything. Do not let anyone discourage you from learning. When I retired my daughter bought me a dozen puzzle books because "doing puzzles will keep you young". I am now working on the biggest puzzle of all and I will not stop there.
Hi Adrienne...
Good advice. It's never too late to go back or stay in school. The idea is that you are bettering and enhancing yourself. I tell my colleagues and friends it's never to late to go back to school or receive a higher degree. You are also bettering society too.
Hello to all:
And I thought I (and my 50 something cohorts) were philosophic.
I do believe there may be some truth to aging and obtaining wisdom and how we apply them to how we view the world. (I understand that is a very general statement, but I'm just trying to make a point - I hope).
The postings at this age group are a more "satisfaction with my life" tone. You did the best you can, have wonderful children, spouses or relationships, might have some regrets, but wouldn't change anything.
The joys of the past have been a major contributor to the happiness of the present. I just get a feeling of complete satisfaction from you.
And learning is just the icing on the cake of life.
Hope I'm not too way off. Appreciated your insights and personal story.
Respectfully submitted,
Maria
Joanne,
Thanks for your comments about keeping on forward towards your goals. You are not in retirement but rehirement! That's a new phenomenon in our world. You inspire me to keep going!
Joanne,
Thanks for enlightening me. I think that we often believe that there are challenges in the pursuit of education that is specific to certain age groups, but upon reading your post, I am convinced that the challenges are similar for all of us.
Time is forever moving, and I am always trying to make the best of what I have. I gather that you and some of our other classmates are in that boat together. Best wishes to you as you continue on the road to higher education.
Hi, Joanne
A beautiful post. I read it to my husband (who's 64) and he said,"Keep plugging along with the computers. You can do it!".
I think it's great to be older. As Harrison Ford said in Raiders of the Lost Ark, "It's not the years, honey; it's the mileage".
M
Response to Adrienne:
I wanted to see te 60-60 age group and their thoughts because I am very close to entering that grouping. drienne, you had much of the same feeliongs that I expressed. The most difficult thing is juggling all of the time I have (which, like yours, is sparse)to devote to studies. In fact, I have to engage in learning activities on a daily basis at work. We have staff development activities, new federal/state regulations to be up to date with, and other job-related learning that takes place constantly. These are l;earning activities as much as the EdD program.
I very much want to complete this program, but as time wears on it becomes more difficult to fit in my studies. Good luck in you endeavors Adrienne.
Response to Adrienne.
Adrienne,
Your advice to others entering your age group is priceless! My pastor actually mentioned that same thing in church this morning. Too many adults over the age of 60 are "put out to pasture" because they are told that they can't be relevant any longer. Adrienne, I applaud you for setting the example for the rest of us and showing everyone that those who believe in age as a limiting factor in bringing about change are grossly incorrect! One of my most valuable resources as an instructor is my "next door neighbor" at work (his office is 4 feet away from mine). He is near retirement, but he still has so much to offer students as well as new instructors like me. If I am going through something new, I can trust that Eric has already been through it and can help show me how to adapt. Great job, and good luck in China! What exactly are you doing there?
Joel
General Response to All-
Thanks for sharing your stories and insights. I enjoy learning about other people's learning journies. It seems to me that in each phase of life we are trying to fit into societies "labels" for normal behavior, while balancing all of life's responsibilities. We all have the same hurdles to jump, no matter what age we are. I believe your age group has the benefit of having more life experiences to help you make better decisions...or am I wrong? So what advice would you give someone who is beginning their educational journey and is just turning fory?
Kate's response to Adrienne,
I can completely relate to your openning statement. I know how it feels to have a life that is completely jam packed and yet not feel there is anything to move around. And most of the time that is correct. There is not a lot of flexibility in working a full time job, being a parent, and going to school. Life is busy.
I think the most important thing is that the "additional" things we do, like school, extra curricular activities, etc., are meaningful. If we don't find meaning in those things, they are not worth doing.
I wish you the best in all you do.
Kate
To all of you in this group;
Thank you very much for your heartfelt and wise contributions to the blog and this assignment! It was very refreshing to read of your many experiences and perspectives on what and where you are. I agree that it is very important to avoid the labels and norms that others may place on you. Tom, I loved reading how you have been able to handle all of the challenges that have come your way and yet in spite of them, you have found ways to persevere and keep the important things in life anchored firmly. I hope someday I will be able to say the same kinds of things about my own journey through life.
GJ
Tom,
This is true that too much criteria is used to fit segments of society in a box. Society also determines that anyone over fifty is past middle age and his or her only purpose in life is to lanquish until death mercifully claims them. Not so, I like you, will not give in to those notions.
I have always had a passion for learning, I began at age 55 to obtain this degree, and I never, ever, want to stop learning. I do not have kids at home any longer, but I have grandkids, I work full-time, as many others do, and I am involved in organizations and have other affiliations. I am just as busy as I always have been, I choose to, and just love it all. I just have to prioritize and keep moving!
Joel, you asked what I'm doing in China. I'm an English teacher currently teaching at Shandong University of Science and Technology. I teach Freshmen who hope to complete their degrees in Massachusetts.
I find this age group very intersting. As I read many of yor comments, I am encouraged by the wealth of maturity. I am among the 30-39 age group, it refreshing that you have been in our shoes and I value your knowledge.
Respone to Tom ...
You are so right - who's to say what someone should be doing at a particular age? What makes these supposedly "researchers" so right? Although researchers have developed what's suppose to be the norm for learning at a particular age, you can never take 2 people of the exact same age and expect them to show the exact same developmental stage of learning.
Personal Adult Phase Age Range 55-65
• The challenges of being a learner at my age
Having just turned 60 on Wednesday, I am now faced with being in a new age group. This could be disconcerting except for the fact that I feel no different than when I was 59. This is a good thing because now that I have made a commitment to my doctoral degree, I do not want to suddenly be faced with new and different challenges because I have “crossed over” to a new decade.
The challenges that remain are a constant. While a youth my “job” was school. Now my “job” is to maintain a certain living condition. This necessity bobs up and down on the seesaw of life with my desire to go to school. I very much agree with Daloz (1999) that as an adult learner I hope to evolve in my thinking to integrate and differentiate ways of making sense of the world (48). As an educator whose responsibility it is to instruct new teachers, I take the mandate to “make sense of the world” very seriously for myself and for my students. As their mentor, it is my job; as their eventual colleague, it becomes my part of the big picture.
• The joys of being a learner at my age
One of the case studies Daloz (1999) uses is a student called Dave. Dave states that when he has attained the knowledge that he seeks he will have achieved “peace of mind” (50). I can easily understand this. I love to learn. I also have and regardless of the phases I have gone through, I have felt a great sense of satisfaction after accomplishing some educational goal. Not that I assumed that I knew it all, but the pursuit and eventual goal have been extremely rewarding. The reward has been in that ability to make more sense of the world and, to me, this is peace of mind.
• My hopes for the next decade as a learner
I see myself exactly in Erik Erickson’s phase 7 of Generativity. My work as an educator is very creative and meaningful as I attempt to “transmit values” about education and about the students my students will eventually teach one day (Harder, 2002, p.4). My reason for going to work everyday is my belief that I am producing the next generation of effective teachers who will make a difference in their turn (p. 4). My studies can only help me in this pursuit.
• My advice for people who are entering my decade as a learner
Although trite, it is never too late to be a learner. Levinson calls my phase the “Late Adult Transition (Daloz, 1999, p. 54). He states that “every transition is to create a new Young/Old integration appropriate to that time of life” (p. 56). Regardless of age, “education starts something, helps it burn brighter, [and] gives it more energy” (p. 60). My age group is not ready to retire. Our “behavioral and cognitive competency” is not altered by crossing into this era (Kastenbaum, 1993, p. 35). There is still much to do, to learn, and to share.
Judi
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Harder, A. (2002). The developmental stages of Erik Erikson. Support for change.
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Kastenbum, R.J. (1993). Age 65. Encyclopedia of adult development. Westport, CT:
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60+ Age Group
It seems all of my life I have lived in a ‘learning’ environment. Both of my parents were college professors creating some of my earliest memories of my mother grading English composition papers at our dining room table. Lifelong learning was an expectation, with advanced degrees considered mandatory.
Being a rebel, and the youngest in my family, I resisted getting my doctorate simply because it was expected I do so. Imagine my surprise to find myself at this age back in school again. It has been fascinating to watch people’s reactions when they learn I am studying for my Ed.D. A consistent reaction is “why”, and many bravely continue with “why would you do that now”, implying my advanced age!
I find the older I am the more freedom I have to be me, not to worry about what others think. I am back in school for the sheer joy of learning new knowledge. No education is ever wasted, and I am thankful for the opportunity to continue being a lifelong learner.
Nancie Parmenter
I agree with much of what this age group speaks of, although, I am in the 40-49 age group but certainly age does not matter given the depth of our souls and emerging attempt to move forward educationally as well as socially. Levinson (1978) believed that "we begin to move out of our midlife wilderness and build a new "life structure" for the second half of our lives (Daloz, p. 57). At this stage in my life, I am still seeking refuge and still finding my place in the world. In my early forties, my life was filled with great pain having lost a son, a brother, a neice all within a three year period. Therefore, I had gone through a period of isolation that created a transition that caused many imbalances leading to self-destruction. It wasn't until the pain eased that I was able to refine my life and cope with these elements. The boundaries of my course for life had been broken and rebuilt and I was able to focus on my life and my place as I enter into another phase or new life cycle. I have undergone what Levinson coined as the "mid-life phase" but also from the era of middle adulthood. Now my focus is to just broaden my horizons and move forward with much intensity.
I find the primary challenge of being a learner at my age is to choose wisely, give myself fully and then know when to stop as it relates to choosing what, when and how to engage in academic learning.
Having a clear and compelling motivation (reason) for continuing academic learning at my age is a must. Without it zeal can diminish, resolve weaken and rationalization can wrestle initial purpose to the ground!
I went through all my previous academic learning (BA,MA, post-grad) while my young family was growing and now my four grandchildren are growing and deserve my attention. Therefore, I must give real attention to time management (realizing that I do not have as much reserve as I had when younger).
The joys of learning at my age are primarily intrinsic and come first from having the opportunity to undertake further academic study and then possessing the mental acumen and physical strength to do so (without the support and encouragement of my spouse of 30 years it would be IMPOSSIBLE).
What are my hopes for learning at this age? I have recently completed a fun, fulfilling, rewarding and difficult 17 years working out of the USA with foreign learners.
I am so to speak, "retooling for a new adventure!" I want to be able to encourage and mentor today's adult learners with up to date information and skills so I find that the rigors and opportunities of this present Ed.D. study makes the fulfilling of that desire possible.
What advice would I have for someone at my age who is considering academic learning-
My short answer would be "carefully consider your motivation for such an undertaking, make sure you have a strong support system around you and take seriously just how demanding such study will be!"
After that I would say, "Make sure that your studying does not subvert life priorities of family, friends and fun!"
I would also say, "After you have considered fully then make sure you act decisively."
When some of my work involved advising undergraduate college students they would often look at the long road ahead and give out a sigh of despair as if to say, "I will never get there."
My words to them (wise or not but certainly true) were, "You can't finish if you don't start."
As one of my very favorite philosophers said, "...and that's all I know about it." (Forrest Gump, from Forrest Gump the Movie, 1994, Robert Zemeckis director, Paramount Pictures.)
I’m two months from my 60th birthday. If someone would have told me in my 40’s I’d be back in school when I was 60 I would have said, ‘not likely, been there, done that'. My biggest challenge at this stage in my life is time. My full-time career role is at a level that is time intensive, requires frequent travel, and availability that doesn’t always follow office hours. But, it’s in higher education in an area that is challenging and that I want to improve on. My off-work time is divided among teaching college courses as an adjunct for a local community college that meets local needs, alternately working with one of the non-profit organizations I support, spending time with my husband, communicating with children, grandchildren, family members and friends around the world, and dabbling in hobbies. Adding the EdD program work to the mix has reduced my personal time. The challenge is in what to let go of as an activity and in ensuring I continue to build on my relationship of 38 years with my husband. It’s so easy to take each other for granted as “always there”, but life is fragile. A challenge is also in re-evaluating the standards of performance I’ve set for myself over the years. Do I really need to get an ‘A’ in the class? Why? I am constantly evaluating whether additional hours spent researching or re-writing are going to make a difference in my learning and thinking twice about giving up family or friend time. I’m working on the 80/20 Rule and if anyone has that one down I’d love to hear from you. I am spending more time in the first few classes than I would prefer and that is primarily because I am re-learning how to research and write academically. It’s been 12 years since I took post-graduate courses and my professional development, writing and presentation has been in a business mode.
The joys of being a learner at my age include not having to work around a young family’s schedules and needs, the luxury of being able to think about the new and exciting things I am learning, take time to discuss them with colleagues, my spouse and friends, compare them to my experiences, and to be able to apply them to what I am living and doing now. I’m not describing this as well as I’d like, but 10 years ago I don’t think I was as open to the learning and questioning I am now doing. Up until a few years ago it was more important to hurry through the process in order to make the next logical step up the career ladder. I find what I am learning now much more applicable to more areas, not just a career. It’s fun! I’m also learning about what is more important to me as a person.
I don’t ever want to stop learning something new or re-arranging what I currently know to apply to differing circumstances. My hope for the next decade is the health and means to continue to learn and to share my learning. My advice for people as learners in their 60’s is to evaluate why you want to go back to school and be prepared to give up or change some activities or relationships because you can’t do it all. But don’t let anyone convince you that you’re too old. We’re learning too much about learning to believe that. Besides, we’re part of the group re-inventing the meaning of retirement, learning, and aging. The ROI at my age is more about personal fulfillment and satisfaction and less about meeting prior expectations of my age.
Dianne
Nancie,
I couldn't agree with you more. I feel totally liberated by continuing my education. I'm in my late 50's and am doing this for me. I want to learn and enjoy what I'm doing. I feel a need to assist in changing my profession and I feel this degree will allow me to do this. Age has nothing to do with it. Enjoy the ride!
Faye Melius
In reading Nancy's remarks about people reacting with "why are you doing that?' I agree, more than once I have gotten the "can't you think of somthing better to do with your time?" The comments come mostly from people 40+ or so. Most have recently retired or changed jobs. Versus, my children who are behind me all the way. Asking everytime I talk with them about how it is going. This makes me feel more a part of their lives, as they are in graduate school as well, than I have in some time. Hooray for us.
Tom:
I enjoyed reading your comments about norms and not getting hung up on age. Have you always viewed life/learning in this same fashion? or did you go through some sort of transformational learning that brought you to this point?
Dianne, I struggled with the time as well and I think that it is great that you are watching the time away from family etc. I look at learning not so much for the marks either, but for the knowledge. I struggle to say to myself I understand that theory or go back constantly to look up an answer to a question that comes to mind regarding a theory. The one thing I am thankful for so far is that the assignments make you learn the theories. The amount of discussion we have is great for learning, not easy when you do not know what you are talking about in front of people that do.
Question for you that always comes to mind for me, does it seem that time goes by faster for you now than it did when you were 49?
Response to Dianne:
It's interesting to hear that one of your joys is not having to work around the schedule of a young family. I think that would have to make the degree program just a tad easier than it would be otherwise. That seems to be very different for me at 38. I am always trying to balance my learning with my other responsibilities.
Dianne
I am in total agreement with you. The first class was easier to write the assignments. This course is tougher with getting my experiences out of the paper and refer to only the theories. Having no small children to deal with during the week I'm able to get some reading done. Family-grandchildren are Saturday and for my degree I dedicated most of Sunday to do my work. When I was younger I could never give up time on a Sunday as my children need that time. Except for self satisfaction is there a difference in the earning the degree weather you get an "A" or "B". It's the piece of paper at the end that let's everyone know you put in the time and effort to be successful in earning it. Does your employer care? Mine does not unless it is a "C". I strive for the "A" but sometimes it doesn't workout that way, but why stress.
Dianne - I connected with two of your posting comments. One comment was about time, that seems to be a common thread no matter what life phase a person is in. I am in my mid fifties with teenage children and my time management skills are constantly challenged.
An old and good friend of mine is also taking a distance learning class and her goal is only A's. I am striving for A's but am willing to accept B's if it means a level of sanity in my life. The bottom line is that I have learned a great deal since beginning this journey in October. Thanks....
Diane: Reading your post allowed me to pick up on a trend I had not captured in reading blogs for other age groups - TIME MANAGEMENT! It seems that no matter what age group we are in time seems to be an issue. Consistently, each groupd is posting about the difficulties of juggling family committments, work, community affairs and of course this program. I have a child who has one year left in high school. I had hoped I would have more time, but it looks as though other things will come into play that will cause me to play the juggling act.
Response to Dianne
You said, "I don’t ever want to stop learning something new or re-arranging what I currently know to apply to differing circumstances."
That's wonderful. I feel the same way. Many challenges face the adult learner. However, lifelong learning is possible, even into the adult’s seventies or eighties. As long as a person continues to learn, whether on a college campus, in non-credit continuing education courses, or in classes held by an elder hostel, the process of expanding one’s mind also has the possibility of prolonging one’s life. Combined with the enrichment of one’s minds and experiences, that seems like reason enough, in itself, to pursue a lifelong education.
Response to Joanne
This was a great response, Joanne! My mother graduated with her PhD at the age of 63, then retired at the age of 64. When I asked her why in the world she obtained a PhD with no intention of using it, she told me it was for the sake of learning and sense of accomplishment. She said one should never stop learning, or they might as well stop living. She is now a municipal judge in a small town in Texas, in addition to ranching cattle. 72 years old! Because of her, I will never fear getting "old", but I will certainly live in fear of growing stagnant. Live and learn...learn and live. You made some great points, and I enjoyed reading your blog!
Alex Winter
Tom, you make me look forward to the 60-69 stage. I must say your stage sounds a lot less complicated than mine(30-39).I think the only thing that scares me is that my mom is 73 and my grandmother is 93 all though my mother and grandmother are in great health, my mom's low key stage has been stressed by the around the clock care my grandmother needs. Do you have any advice to those of us who may have to take care of our parents during this stage? I come from a family of long-livers and I feel that just getting my kids out of the house and enjoying my grandchildren will come with parent care as well. Have you or your peers dealt with this?
Thanks,
Candi
Candi,
From the 50-59 stage I must say that I am one of those that is getting my own children out the door towards their carrers and at the same time working with my parents to keep them healthy. I do not have grandchildren yet but can't imagine how that will make things even more complicated. Not much advice though, it happens and it does not matter how much you prepare there is always an unknown that pops up.
Rob
Response to Tom:
Hi Tom,
I really enjoyed reading your post. I think there should be no age limitations for learning and understanding the world around us. With the fast emerging technologies, everyone regardless of their age should constantly learn and upgrade their previous knowledge and information. I salute your eagerness to learn and your determination to against cultural limitations. Daloz (1999) in his book "Mentor" argues that in order to develop, adults need to swim against the upstream of their cultures.
Good luck with he rest of your journey,
-Sara
Reference
Daloz, L. A. (1999). Mentor: Guiding the journey of adult learners (Rev. ed.). San Francisco: Jossey-Bass
Tom-
I agree with you that too much importance is placed on age, race, gender,whatever the case may be. I believe more importance should be placed on life experiences and goals. A person in their 20s might be going through some of the same challenges as someone in their 60s.
Hi Tom,
I agree with you. Age is just a number. It is how you have lived your life that really counts.
Thanks for your wisdom and knowledge.
Lorenza
Response to Tom,
Thank you for sharing your story and advice. You made me think about the “age blind” advantage of taking an online program. I am right behind your age group, but find it a challenge to keep up with ever-changing technology. Did you have difficulty adjusting to the online computer format, researching articles, etc? I’m not sure this is age related, but when I have a computer problem it is always one of my younger colleagues that help out. I’m always amazed at the way my young students "whip" across the keys.
Response to Nancie,
Hi Nancie,
I liked reading about the differences between the way you grew up and the way I grew up. My childhood was quite the opposite! My mother was a nurse, but stopped working once we were born. My father never attended college but opened up his own business - which was quite successful. My older brother and sister both obtained bachelor's degrees, but my sister is now home with her kids, and my brother has begun his own successful business. School did not seem to be a necessity in my household. I went back to school after my children began elementary school and have not stopped since! I can't believe how much education I have under my belt at this point! It's a great feeling!
Response to Dianne:
Dianne, I was very interested in reading your post about the challenges of being a learner at this stage of your life. Being 47 years old, my biggest challenge was also time management and the art and science of balancing the "demands of modern life" as described by Kegan (1994), which in my case are my diverse roles as a wife, mother, worker/educator and now, student in the Ed.D. program. I was able to communicate with Danny, a young man in his late 20's who was also challenged by time in his management of the same things I was, but at a different scale with a baby daughter and a career within which he was advancing. Despite our varied ages, the 20's, 40's and late 50's, we are challenged to manage our time and still devote some of that precious time to our personal needs and development. In my case, I am working on a second marriage, a blended family with children aged 14 - 20, two of which are in college, and a career which I am expanding to include a broadening of my skills to allow me to develop and direct a graduate program.
Getting a perspective into your life gives me a glimpse into my life in another 10 years or so, as at that point I can see myself communicating with adult children and perhaps grandchildren and with an increased level of involvement in social and community causes which I believe in. While I hope to be done with my doctorate at that point, there is no doubt that I will be engaged in continued learning, as learning and development is clearly a life-long pursuit.
I can also relate to your views on how much you really need or should put into your studies to make that perfect "A". Coming from the culture where straight A's was my expectation for myself, continuing to aim for that at all costs becomes much more unreasonable and dare I say, inappropriate, as I seek to truly balance the needs of my family, career and even my own personal time (which I would say is mostly non-existent at this time). Please share with me your overview and perspectives on the 80/20 rule and how you are working to achieve this.
Thanks for your good advice!
Ana Abad-Jorge (40 - 49 group)
Reference:
Kegan, R. (1994). In over our heads: The mental demands of modern life. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press.
It has been an extreme pleasure to read the perspectives from this realm of learning because analyzing your responses age is not the factor but the motivational drive of each individual. I saw so many similarities between this group and the others and the only difference is our age. I really appreciated the information because it confirmed my self-analysis that I will always be a life-long learner as so many of you are and I thank you for sharing your experiences.
Dianne,
I am only 38 but I had the same thoughts 10 years ago, I did not think I would ever return to school. I really enjoyed my Master's program, but I was just completely spent by the time that I finished.
Now here I am. I am glad or validated to see that manny others have the same concerns as me with time management, but I hope that it gets easier rather than harder.
Congrats on 38 years of marriage. I have only been married for 15 but as a military spouse and with lots of work related separations it is definitely a challenge. Maintaining my marriage and family while completing this degree is definitiely going to be a challenge, even with my family's support.
Response to Tom
I agree that norms are biased and that you do not always fit into the one prescribed for you. You give me hope that I can be different and still make it to where I am tring to go!
Response to Joanne,
Time is always an issue for most of us. Family, careers, and school are the biggest recipients of our time. You by no means need to slow down. Continue to be a model for us entering that decade of life!
Adrienne's comment of "keep moving forward" made me think of Daloz and his sriting on narrative. She seems to embody what he is talking about in terms of forward motion that comes through narrative and, for him (me too), is such an important component for the adult learner. You bring that concept to life in your posting.
It seems that Joanne's comments are exactly what Bandura describes in social cognitive theory. By telling her own story to the students she encounters, she is promoting self-efficacy in that learner. Very nice example of how that theory works.
Response to Dianne:
I am encouraged that you made the leap to pursue another degree and did not allow age to deter you. With a husband, school work and a demanding job, balancing your activities is probably challenging. Loved ones tend to be push aside with the thought that they will understand the necessity to focus on something else. You gently reminded readers how precious life is and those we love should be cherished each day we are blessed to draw breath.
Hello Tom,
Like you, I have never been one to conform to the norm. I enjoy being myself,I and celebrate individuality.
I feel that many times, some are so hung up on the appropriate age to embark in any given task, that the opportunity is missed because he or she was not the "right" age.
We are never too young or too old to learn. As long as we prioritize our goals and stay focused, success can be achieved.
EuRonda, age 38
Hi Tom,
I agree with you. We all have a tendency to place people into generalizations or norms based upon how we perceive others. Unfortunately, our viewpoints are limited based upon our even limited experiences. It is not fair to others to think of them in this matter. However, it is us who are doing ourselves a disservice because of our restricted thinking. I like your advice for all learners. It is so important for us to enjoy this phase of our lives, no matter what our ages may be.
Linda Crim
According to Erikson, people of this age range are in Late Adulthood which is 55 or 65 to DEATH! This categorization hardly seems appropriate anymore. People are living longer and are lving more vibrant lives. If 40 is the new 20, then 60 is the new 40 and judging from these posts there is alot of living going on! Erikson sees this as a stage of recovering from middle adulthood, a time when we review our lives and feel (hopefully) happy and content about what we accomplished. I'm sure that people in this age group reflect, but they also move forward. This isn't a time for sitting back anymore. Our country and world desperately need the wisdome and life experience of those in this age group. I hope no one is sitting around waiting for death, as Erikson has implied. He asks, "Was the trip worth it?" He may not get any answers because I no one is home in the rocking chair, reflecting on their life and waiting to pass on.
My mother is about 61 years of age and she started school last year. She has a bachelor’s degree in psychology and is going for her second bachelors in religion.
When she began studying we all laughed and wanted to know why she is going back to school at this age. She is the oldest in her class and works very hard. She has a hard time with the computer but get lots of help.
I guess to sum it up I would say I have learned a thing or two about learners in her age group. There are many people still taking classes, she is building confidence because she is achieving something, and she doesn’t need our support.
Dear Adrienne
It is true that as we grow old,there is so much for us to do.Our families need us and all in all added obligations come our way.It is good you are back and full swing into school and i must welcome you back.It gets difficult for me but i thank God because we share some challenges.
It is true to be able to finish an assignment is an achievement and i thank God for that every day of my life.My hopes for the future is to be a role model even as i continue to pass good virtues to future generations!
It is true that young generations are loosing direction,but according to me as parents and older citizens,we need to give directions.We need to help them forge into the future and encourage the older generations that there is always a second chance!
Hi Tom,
I enjoyed your post it was heartfelt. Unfortunately the norm is what many people deem as acceptable. Your thinking on the end result not working out just as I planned is comforting: “My other advice is that in the end everything will probably not work out the way you expected it; however, in most cases, when you look back, it was better the way it happened than how you planned”. Thanks for sharing.
Response to Nancie’s Post..
Hi Nancie, your story is very similar to my own. Obtaining a bachelors degree is a mandatory rite of passage in my family. However, striving for much more than a bachelor’s degree is unnecessary- according to my family. “Why do you need a doctorate??” My family would often ask. My philosophy is everyone has their own definition of what living really is. For me living is learning. My intention is simply to live MY life to its fullest-in a way that makes me feel happy; even if this means obtaining another doctorate after obtaining the current doctorate that I am pursuing. My 86 year old father ends and begins every conversation with these words: NO REGRETS!
Cheers to you Nancie!
Greetings from the 30 something age bracket! I just wanted to tell you all how much I have enjoyed reading your posts. You are very inspiring to an over-whelmed woman with time management challenges - time management seems to be a theme here and a widely regarded key to success. Duly noted.
My favorite comment had to be Mary's: "I think it's great to be older. As Harrison Ford said in Raiders of the Lost Ark, "It's not the years, honey; it's the mileage".
Thanks for the laugh and the great advice. Cheers to you!
This comment is especially for Estis Maryam. Your comment that this age group is vital to give direction and encouragement could not be more truthful. I read where few theorist use the word "wise". However, this age group has experienced much in their lifetime. You have valuable experience and knowledge. You would be great to mentor others because of this.
This is for Becky. There are new areas of study opening in learning as older adults. This age is beyond 65. I know many people in their 80's and 90's who are very active, still learning, and still teaching - formally and informally. As longevity increases, we should expect learning to continue and be exciting. I hope I never lose the desire to learn! Life will be boring. I also see many older adults using technology in very creative ways. I believe it is good cognitively for them to remain active this way. This would be another great study.
Hi Tom,
I loved your comment about not expecting things to turn out the way you planned. There is so much truth in this. Although humbling and even frustrating at times, this is a growing period for all of us. I am in the 40+ age range and I am curious if you feel the older you get the less control you need. I feel I am trying to control my life by seeking a balance, which I have yet to find. I admire your eagerness to continue to learn. I'm sure you have a great amount of wisdom and can make relevant connections to what you are learning.
How have you taught at a college for 20 years and not had to take an education class? What topics were the courses you have taken?
Best wishes
Hi Scholargirl,
I enjoyed reading both Nancie’s post and your response to it. I was also too rebellious to follow Dad’s wish that I would get a bachelor degree. I started quite late in life but then I never really quit school, getting one qualification after another. When I got my masters, one friend told me ‘No more!’ Naturally I do not listen to anyone but myself. I enjoy learning. Knowing I learn something new makes me euphoric, and boosts my confidence. Most people around me are less than encouraging. Therefore, now I talk less and less about my study. Only a few knew I graduated from a master program. If they think I’m crazy staying in school for decades, we don’t speak the same language.
Holly
Dianne, I can relate to the time constraints imposed on adult learning. It is often difficult for me to find the time to fit everything in that you mentioned. I enjoyed reading that you also wonder why you stress over getting an "A" in the class. I frequently tell my students not to be so obssessed with getting a "A" when approximately 60% of the first level fundamanetal nursing students do not pass. I want to take my own advise but it is often hard to do. I do spend a lot of time and energy to achieve an "A" so more than likely this adds to the reason I want to get an "A". I often think of trying to be more relaxed in achieving this EdD degree but so far the type "A" personality gets in the way. I only hope that once I achieve this degree, I can be satisfied with the great accomplishment and not add yet another big challenge to my life. That is however, something I will have to wait to see. I have learned so much thus far and do love learning. It would be even more pleasurable if there was more time to do so. Good posting! Maureen
I totally agree Maureen. Life is a challenge, especially when you have children. Many of my friends think that after I finish this doctorate I'm going to start working on something else. I'm certain that this is the last degree! I would like to focus on teaching full-time and operating a non-profit. What would you want to do after this?
The challenges of being a learner at the age of 66 are many and varied. Having just retired from a corporate job with tremendous stress and pressure, one would think that it is the time in life where one should be considering relaxing, traveling, and spending time with friends. Choosing to continue grow by enrolling in a formal education program seems an odd choice; however, my history has always been one of looking for and accepting challenges. According to Erikson this is the stage of late adulthood (55 or 65 to death), and the challenges one faces at this age in any endeavor is time. Perhaps memory does not serve well or perhaps the years are taking their toll but did we work this hard and spend this much time during graduate school days (smile)? It seems there is no life other than school so the challenge is going to be how to balance the activities of school and life.
The great part of participating in this EdD program is the opportunity to enhance current worldviews, augment knowledge, and collaborate with so many interesting, wonderful people. Another benefit received from returning to school is that I have recently gotten into the habit of trading reading for listening with books on tape; formal education required me to start reading again. I now realize how much I have missed sitting in a comfortable chair with a good book.
The joy of being a learner at this age is that I am now working as a consultant so I have more discretionary time to devote to my studies. I also think that because of this activity, my brain stays sharp and my interest in what goes on in the world is greater. I also think that at this age the breadth of my experiences allow me to be more open to the opinions of others and the benefits of the “group think.” I have discovered through the years that the old Japanese proverb “none of us is as smart as all of us” is a truism. Much is learned from my colleagues about how people learn and what appeals to learners of specific ages. This learning that is as valuable as what I read and discover through other means. However, there is a natural sense of learning that occurs after living through most of the development stages as opposed to knowing them through reading. Erik Erikson was correct when commenting, “that much of life is preparing for the middle adulthood stage and the last stage recovering from it. Continuing to learn at this age has proved that ignoring comments from those who discouraged me early in life was good thing to do. Because of what I call the turtle effect (taking more time than most to accomplish certain types of tasks), I have been able to offset the effect of diagnosed dyslexia. It took a very long time and three degrees beyond high school to believe that I do have the capacity to think and write well; it just means devoting additional time and having patience.
As a senior learner, I hope I will continue to grow and share my story with others who need encouragement. I would love to mentor others and help them be successful. *I want to use what I am learning to support others in their life journey. I want to help people to learn how to learn and teach them how to use that learning to enrich their lives. My hopes for the next decade as a learner is that I will stay vibrant and keep my mind open to new ideas and concepts. Having grown up in a time when TV was new, 78 records were in style, there were no CDs or DVD, cell phones, personal computers or color TV. I have seen many new things that make our lives easier. It is my hope to make a difference and to support the learning and growth of the future contributors who will change our lives. I would like to leave the world better than I found it.
Comments from Liz Miles
My advice for people who are entering your decade as a learner is to go with the flow. Do not limit yourself to what people say you should be doing, try going where your heart takes you and live as if there is no tomorrow. Love your life, love yourself, and love your fellow man.
There are challenges of being a learner at any age. The challenges just present themselves differently. When I was young, and just starting out in life, I looked at things with young and in-experienced eyes; not really realizing what was is in store for me. I had the challenge of finding myself, dating, and finding a mate. As I grew a little older and gained a little more knowledge and experience, I focused on a career, raising a family, and all of the financial stresses that living brings. As I continued to travel down the road of life, I became a little more settled within myself and some how gained the fortitude to handle challenges that I thought were impossible. During the latter years, I have the challenge of elderly parents, children that might return home because of hardships and possibly my failing health. I am 61 years old, work a full time job at a hospital in Quality Improvement, teach part time for an online school and I am in a Doctoral program. This is challenging in itself.
I have always been a lifelong learner, if not in a formal setting, attending conferences and seminars. I think this is what has kept me young and my brain active. It is a joy for me to learn new things and be able to apply them in my classroom, at work or to life in general. I have been a nurse for 35 years, I started out as an LPN and worked in that capacity until my children were teens. I completed an ASN in 1989, a BSN in 1994 and a MSN in 2006. I started teaching in a BSN completion program in 2007. It gives me great pleasure to educate the nursing profession, as teaching has become my passion. In addition, I enjoy the interaction with my colleagues as we share new ideas and best practice.
My hope for the next decade is that I will retire from my hospital job and continue to teach in an online program where my schedule will be more flexible, that I will continue my lifelong learning, and that I will stay healthy. My advice for people who are entering my decade as a learner is to embrace the journey and take it one-step at a time. Reflect on what you already know and the past experiences that have transformed your learning. Realize that during your learning journey, you will have great insight and learning experiences to share.
Vera
For Vera...From Chris
The folks in your age-range and beyond are very inspiring to me because you just keep going and going.
I recall when I was bebinning my Master's at Notre Dame, there was a woman exactly your age who was starting as well. During a conversation with one of the program directors she shared her anxiety about how she wouldn't be able to finish the program until she was 64 or 65 years old and wondered if it was all worth the effort of doing the degree if she was going to finish at that age. The director asked her (and I'll never forget this) "Well, how old will you be if you DON'T do this degree?"
Yeah...time goes by whatever we do in the meanwhile. Que será, será.
Keep on truckin' Vera.
Chris Johnson
Response to Chris,
HI - I love the quote...so true! We will all be older and wiser as we continue this journey. I hope yours is going well!
Barb
To all,
Thank you for sharing your insightful and motivating comments. Although, I am slightly behind in age, I face some of the same questions about why am I pursuing this degree now. I have to admit some days I wonder as I attempt to balance all the situations that occur in life. But as a firm believer in lifelong learning I am sure this is not the final goal!
Barbara
Elizabeth,
I enjoyed reading your perspective on learning at your stage in life. You are in the same decade as my dad, and I can safely say you have a more positive outlook on life than he does. I know that he did not follow his dreams because he listened to what others said he could or could not do, and now he sits and reflects with regret. My mom on the other hand did not have limits put on her, and she is content where they are in life.
So your advice to not limit yourself to what others say you can or cannot do could not be more poignant!
Michelle Kelley, Adult Phase 30-39 (31)
Vera,
I agree with what you said about as you get older, you gain a little more knowledge and experience in life, which is so true.
It seems to me that people in your age bracket knows what they want in life and I praise them for that.
Education is something that no one can take away from you no matter what you age is.
Talk to you later.
For Vera
From Tori (AKA Victoria Mallison)
Vera,
I love your attitude. Although you state that there are challenges at your age you also share that you are rady to take on those challenges and you are looking forward to the fututre. I wish everyone could enjoy life as you seem to be doing. We need to stop worrying so much about how old we are and just go with the flow. I have enjoyed reading the comments of others like you. It is great to hear other peoples perspective. We all seem to have many similarities.
Tom I like your last statement because we ca not predict the way things will work out. We have to be prepared to handle the outcome no matter what. It is good to set goals and to have plans but like I tell my children, you need a back up plan too. I think that if we have a good attitude we can find joy in life. If we get stuck on what did not happen the way we wanted to happen we can become bitter and miserable people. Things happen sometimes for a reason.
I have taught at the community college level for the past five years and am presently working on my doctorate in education. I completed my masters in nursing education last fall at the age of 61. Learning at this age seems more comfortable for me. The online learning environment and "empty nest" seem conducive to concentration, life style, and less sense of competition with others, but more with myself.
I am thoroughly loving formal learning at my age,and regret not advancing my degree two decades ago. However the regrets are minimal considering the richness of my life experiences all these years.
I hope to apply my learning throughout the decade, facilitating the learning of nursing "essence" in my students and continuing to enjoy the professional socialization and scholarship available through conferences and programs offered by my professional organizations. I would like to participate as a scholar, researcher, and speaker myself. Learning at present and in the future is a gift I grant myself.
My advice to people entering my decade as a learner? Reflect, decide, and do it!
Hi Tom,
It is refreshing to read your post because you have addressed all of the issues associated with the idea of age being a factor when an individual decides to go back to school. I too agree that chronological age has nothing to do with whether a person is or is not capable of handling classes. It is indeed a societal expectation of what the norm is suppose to be. I applaud anyone at any age when they have committed to going back to school because the challenge arises in juggling school, work and family. All ages deal with these issues. I know in my case school helps to keep me thinking and alert.
Response for Karin P.:
Karin,
It was a joy to read your post. You and I are kindred spirits with the "empty nest" lifestyle, a love for learning, being in competition with myself rather than with others,and minimal regrets for being a late educational bloomer. I finished my master's degree only a few years ago and almost stopped there. Almost let the age thing stop me. I realized that I owed it to "ME" to keep going because I love learning so much and I truly want to give to others.
Thanks for reminding me that I am definitely making the right choice and thanks for sharing a part of your life with me.
Take care of yourself and good luck with your future endeavors.
Peggy!!!
Tom,
Great assessment in regards to norms and age and I believe you pose a valid argument about biases that can occur as a direct result of improper sampling and/ or cultural subjectivity. I also wanted to say that I agree with your statement, “in the end everything will probably not work out the way you expected it; however, in most cases, when you look back, it was better the way it happened than how you planned.” What a great analogy. By the way, I think you are a gifted writer and I truly enjoyed reading your post.
• The challenges of being a learner in my 50’s.
I think life can be challenging. When I started back to college after my daughter finish High School, was my biggest challenge. Didn’t know what to expect. Was apprehensive to say the least. It had been about 20 years since I had been in school; when the first day came, I can’t tell you how many times I started getting doubts about going to class that day. While I was walking into class, I said a prayer and ask the Lord to be with me that night and to take that fear away from me, he did and I have not look back. Learning has been fun as well as challenging. I have to sometimes get myself motivated because some days after a hard day’s work I don’t want to even pick up a book or look at a computer.
The program of Computer Science that I entered as an undergrad somehow seem to be mostly male dominated through my duration of the program. I was the only woman in the class until the very end and that was when I had a female professor for the first time!! And finally the last class I had two female students in the class with me for the first time. That whole program was challenging and especially going through it in my late 40’s.
• The joys of being a learner at my age
The joys of being a learner at my age, which is 55 years young!!!! Is that I appreciate it more. Getting an education is so important to me now since I have gotten older. I like the interaction of my fellow classmates, and learning of each other’s diverse backgrounds.
• My hopes for the next decade as a learner ?
My hopes for the next decade as a learner are to learn as much as I can and to never get enough of it and to pass what I learned on to my students.
• My advice for people who are entering your decade as a learner?
Joanne:
I am glad to hear that are living your life at full speed at your age. I would think an active and productive younger life will result in active older years. I am 55 and it is inspiring to know that I don't have to slow down at 65.
I think the 50's these days are considered to me the new 40's. people are more active, meaning we try to exercise our minds as well as our bodys.
Tom,
You are so right, there is way to much importance placed on how old a person is. Who is to say that one age group can learn any better than the other. I beleive it would be much less stressful continuing education at a later time in life, becasue the kids are grown, you've done your time on your job so you don't have to worry about balancing kids and work, you can concentrate more heavily on your education. Good Luck to YOU!!
Discussion Module 5.1
The Challenges of being a learner at my age.
I believe that learning is challenging at any age. I am a nursing educator at the university level. My formal educational journey began in my native country outside Canada until I was 22 years of age. Then I came to Canada which presented several challenges. First, one of the most difficult challenges was adjusting to being a self directed learner rather than being taught be teachers using an authoritarian method. The system was not flexible and learning was mainly achieved by the memorization of facts. Second, the era of technology poses another challenge to learn the technology that is required to complete this on line course. This is my first online course. However, given my motivation and hard work I am certain that I will learn the new technology.
I completed my Master’s degree in Education in December, 2008. Then I ask myself, where do I go from here? The answer was easy, move forward and keep going because I love learning and sharing my knowledge and skills with others. So here I am, enrolling in the EDd program at age of 59. I turned 60 in June, 2009. I am a lifelong learner and will continue to do so. I have the support of my immediate family in my journey of higher education. However, from others I still get the questions, why are you doing this degree at this age, what would you gain from doing it? I have to re-assure them once again that the greatest benefit is for my personal growth and development.
Erickson’s eight stages of developments with the last stage being Late Adulthood: 55 or 65 to Death. Ego Development Outcome: Integrity vs. Despair. Ready for death? I think not! I hope to spend the next decade encouraging, supporting, and motivating students
The Joys of being a learner at my age.
The joy of learning comes with hard work and I feel good about myself and what I am doing. I have a busy full time schedule and love it. I want to teach my students to be the best they can so that they can make a positive difference. I want to become more knowledgeable, keep up with the new trends in education, and become more of a critical thinker and a reflective practitioner.
My Hopes of being a learner at my age.
My hopes for the next decade as an adult learner would be that the curriculum would continue to accommodate the specific learning needs of culturally diverse learners and adult learners. I hope that the knowledge gained will enable me to be an expert in the field of adult education. Also one of my goals is to develop an adult learning theory /tool that will motivate learners to achieve their potential learning goals as adult learners.
My advice of being a learner at my age.
My advice for people who are entering my decade as a learner is never stop learning. When you stop learning, you stop living. Follow your dream(s) and remain committed to your goal(s) even with life crises and obstacles. Also, to be more cognizant of new technology and information that would be an asset in adult learning. Sharing information and collaborating with colleagues/peers would enable learners to keep ahead of current information and technological changes in the present society and its effect on learners.
Finally, teaching in itself is a learning process. I believe that education is the key to success. It is never too late to learn and do not let your age stop you.
Good luck to everyone!
Samdaye.
Reference:
Harder, A. (2002). The developmental stages of Erik Erikson. Retrieved November 19, 2008, from Support 4 Change website at http://www.support4change.com/stages/cycles/Erikson
In response to Tom
Hi Tom, I agree that too much importance is on chronological age. I always wanted to be a university graduate. When my kids were younger I did not have the opportunity to attend university, now they are older and I have several university degrees. I feel great about myself. "I am happy with me". I am not concern about fitting the norm.
Do you think chronological age would be a thing of the past?
Samdaye.
Responding to Dianne,
Dianne I hear you! I just turn 60 in June. I have too much going on in my life at this age. I ask myself what to give up? NO ANSWER! When you figure out how to decrease the workload please share that information with me (smile).
You are correct! I have been married for 38 yrs. It is very easy to take each other for granted. I keep reminding myself of this.
Great Post!
Samdaye.
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